The only thing that this campaign is missing is exposure, so here are a few ways you too can #SaveMacGyver and give it the proper end that it deserves! I dont think the .38 issue is that big of a deal. I happened to be quite fond of the 357 mag round, including the fact that one can shoot 38spl in them. Por eso diseamos y producimos cada una de las piezas de nuestras colecciones aqu en Espaa y Portugal y mantenemos una estrecha relacin con las personas que convierten nuestras ideas en realidad. .30-06. The .357 Magnum is considered by many to be the most effective handgun round for human sized targets. i have a springfield 1911 with ten round mags.i think coonan Will eventually produce higher cap. I all so had a few boxes of 38+P but I cant remember what brand. I own many 357 magnums, Infact it is one of only 4 rounds I shoot even though I have nearly 20 guns now. Accurate 5744 is also a great choice for straight-walled cartridges such as the .444 Marlin, .458 Winchester Magnum, .450 BushMaster and the .45-70 Government, especially with lead bullets. In the larger handgun cases, 5744 works as a standard-performance in some and a reduced-load powder in others. I frequently shoot 180 grain bullets from my Coonan, I have shot a few 200 grain bullets and I have seen 230 grain bullets (for bowling pin matches) but have never shot one. This is a higher-pressure load, reserved for strong actions such as the Blackhawk; however, 18.0 grains will give pressures suitable for all .45 Colt guns at a muzzle velocity of right around 950 fps. With just 46.0 grains of 5744 and a 400-grain Hornady round-nose, I got 1,725 fps and a reduction in felt recoil of 25 to 30 percent. To me at the time, that was not surprising considering that revolvers chambering the same cartridge had the same problem. The only thing I didnt find as promised in the Coonan Classic .357 was that it is supposed to be able to shoot .38 Special with a second spring that comes with the gun. Many Broadway productions manage to transcend the theater and spawn globally popular songs or movie adaptations. I found that the .38spl spring required about 500rds to break in, after that my Coonans were reliable with .38spl+p (remington125gr+p), the .357mag was reliable out of the box. The Coonan is a GREAT gun and well worth the priceBuy One and you too will be converted. With gritted teeth. Even the .30-06 Springfield and other popular medium calibers can benefit from Accurate 5744, because the velocity can be brought down into the .30-30 Winchester range for a younger shooter or even a new shooter. The lip of the casing just isnt sturdy enough for the extractor to grip and flip. in a .30-30. It has a link-less barrel, an external extractor and a pivoting trigger. It works really well and is also a lot of gun for the money. Learn how your comment data is processed. Glad theyre back in production. ?Please give a way to send you an attachment so you can get an idea of what I would want in a compensator for this lovely pistol youve invented.Send me a link so I can send that attachment at the above email ([email protected]). That Gun is a heavily modified, pared down .223 pistol, successor to the same weapon from Fallout and Fallout 2.It weighs a hefty 5 pounds and has a motorized cylinder and crane for quicker shooting and reloading than a typical revolver. To date Ive taken four (4) deer with mine the longest at about 80 yards. Bought mine somewhere around 96 and havent found anything it doesnt like to cycle EXCEPT Winchester!!! I bought mine last year. My personal favorite is the .375 Ruger case with 40 grains 5744 over a standard primer and topped with a Speer 235 grain Hot Core bullet. This fact is why the 38 Super has been around since 1920, yet hasnt really taken off as a viable, preferable alternative to the 45ACP. Yes, inevitably, the shooter will need to become proficient with the bullet weights and velocities for which these types of cartridges were designed. I think it is a great handgun, the Coonan manages to makes it way into the carry rotation every once in a while. The rear sight is similar to a Navak but has dashes rather than dots and the front is a standard dot all glow green, I find the setup very easy to use during the day or low light. My mdl B likes American Eagle 357, and not Winchester. My Winchester 94AE XTR, with its 20-inch barrel, likes a 150-grain Nosler Combined Technology round-nose bullet of more than 23.7 grains of 5744 for 2,175 fps. Accurate 5744 Powder: Versatility in a Bottle, Classic Guns: Winchester Model 1897 Pump-Action Shotgun, Viridian HS1 Laser-Sight Hand Stop Pulls Double Duty, Reloading: The Art of Seating Primers by Hand, Reloading: Hodgdon Extreme PowderThe Consistent Choice, 11 Videos To Get You On Track Reloading Ammunition. Is this still for sale and if so for how much, and where are you located. Kind of reminds me of a ole 38 Super, on a wee bit of steroids. In the rifle cases, 5744 is well-suited to the .17 and .22 Hornet, .222 and .223 Remington, as well as the 7mm-08 Remington, .308 Winchester and the WSM family. They will have to be made by taking a couple 6.8 Mini-14 mags by taking out all of there internal parts which is very simple. After all this put the bottom back on holding the new spring and follower inside and Walla!!! The recoil is not as bad as any other 357 magnum I own (other than my Marlin lever actions). Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. Hmmmm (or .38 if you can get it to shoot), so as a carry gun the firepower is about the same as a standard .45ACP 1911. A group of veterinary professionals from all areas of the professions have written an open letter to the government calling on it to take quick action to enshrine animal sentience in law. The 6 bbl Model B has become my carry sidearm replacing my Colt Delta Elite. I bought a Coonan Classic .357 magnum and fired 50 rounds at poor snoopy and he was badly dented and 3 holes completely though the steel. Never see that mentioned much any more. Before getting it I had been saving 357 magnum ammo for several months, I tried to get a box of everything I could find. Some may find the romance of a huge kick and brilliant muzzle flash a great reason to buy a .357 Mag. You do have to read the directions on this gun. Great piece. Springfield XD 357 Sig, 4 Inch, Black 2006 package, 12rd+1 Mag **S @ $453.00 is a much better buy,Plus it comes with extras,like a 2 mag belt clip,a 1 mag holder,and a clip on holster,,all for less than half that Coonan,,Check out Buds Gun sales on-line if you dont believe me @ http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/24/products_id/32517 Ohh the Springfield doesnt come in SS or Camo,but at a savings of $796.00,,Id think NO one would care,,Its the Bullet that matters,,not the fricking looks..Smithy. I purchased the original Coonan 357mag back in 91. I recently found these http://www.pennbullets.com/38/38-caliber.html which is a 230 grain bullet for the 357 magnum. The 357 magnum all so pulls ahead in. I shot it with Hornady Critical defense, and though you will see a huge fireball on the Coonan Arms webpage, I didnt note this at all in my tests of the gun. The .357 Sig could have been named the 9mm Sig, or the 38 Sig. The 38 Super round itself attempted to re-invent the 45ACP, but without the devastating stopping power. For other gunmakers out there, Im sure this was a case of why didnt I think of that, because it does 100% solve the rim problem with the .357 Mag. This is so that the rims of the .357 Mag. I hope this was of help. Get the 74th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. Its also a fun steel Man-sized silhouette gun in that a low shot on the front target many times will slam the silhouette down so fast that it will also take out the second target with the same shot. If the new ones are as good, no reason not to buy one. I was working at Coonan Arms at that time, and worked on that gun, so I had an interest in your experience with it. Had both Super and ACPs at one time, now wish I had not sold them, but am kind of a wheel gun guy. Though it was disappointing from a nerd perspective, I dont feel this hurts the viability of the Coonan Arms Classic .357 as probably the nicest .357 semi-auto pistol ever made. While some folks are happy using third world Euro junk, some of us prefer the craftsmanship of American made products. On page 3 or 4 of the manual it says do not fire .38 Specials until the gun is broke in. Playwrights aspire for their plays to become Broadway productions. What is this concealed carry you speak of? Probably the AR-15 Spring for a 40rd magazine. grips for her. Im 36years old and there is absolutley nothing better than going hunting with your Dad or Grandfather. In fact I would argue that the design of the grip is made specifically so that finger length is not an issue. I am going to put it through hell and document my findings and HAVE FUN. This is a well made, close tolerance gun that will last you a lifetime. The 45ACP 230gr hardball round is a more devastating round than a of the Super 38 loads. It is definitely a gun geek gun, but you shouldnt let that scare you off if you are new to shooting but comfortable with the guns you already shoot. sorry ,didnt mean to carryon! The grip on the Coonan Classic .357 is big, but though most of the circumference is lengthwise, it overall is not really bigger than my Para P-14, and I even compared it to an old Smith & Wesson 659, which is a double stack 9mm from the 80s, and it is about the same size. Also the Coonan does ship with an extra mag as this article states and which I can attest to. * 1911 has long grip already. I have one for sale, New in Box, never fired. The versatility of the .375 Holland & Holland Magnum, .416 Rigby, .404 Jeffery and .458 Winchester Magnum has been long proven, but to many shooters, the full-house loads represent the fast track to a flinch. cases will absolutely not bind up by overlapping each other. I have an original from the 8os. David Bossie, National Committeeman of the Republican National Committee in Maryland (2016present), president of Citizens United and former deputy campaign manager to the Donald Trump presidential campaign; M. Jane Brady, Chair of the Delaware Republican Party (2019present) and Attorney General of Delaware (19952005) However, because its a powder that gives a standard performance level, Ive had very good results in the .30-30 Winchester case in rifles old and new. I have been a Pierce County Deputy Sheriff since 1984. I like the power of the 10MM, approximately the same as .41 Mag depending on the load, but many dont like the recoil and muzzle blast of the 10. This is not just my opinion. The Coonan Classic .357 features a linkless barrel in a 1911 frame. As to the Coonan, I would like to save up some bucks for one. The 38 Super is more coparable with the 45ACP, with some disadvantages. That rifle was never the most accurate, although through handloading, Ive seen the best results it has had to offer; and the 5744 load ranks among the best of my pet loads. I am recalling the old days and way off the point, just good memories for me. It comes with a pin to help you load the magazine effortlessly, and as I was loading the magazine I did envision bumbleheaded posts to the gun forums about how much of a thumbuster the Coonan .357 magazines were, when you were never supposed to load them with just your thumb to begin with. To a shooter whos unfamiliar with the recoil of a cartridge suitable for African dangerous-game animals, it can be nothing short of hellacious. The Russians had semi-auto rifles that took rimmed cases AND a bolt action that takes rimmed cases. Six major concealed carry insurance programs are now available to the millions of Americans who carry concealed. You can buy several brands of 1911 off the shelf for more money than this Coonan and they will not be this clean and tight in their manufacturing and performance. Coonans are very loud guns. Heck I am long winded. Can I just get the slide, barrel, mags and parts to finish the slide? It also shines in the Winchester Short Magnums, and while the .300 WSM is probably the one of the bunch that will remain with us (just my prediction), Accurate 5744 is also well-suited to the .270 WSM and 7mm WSM. In the world of handguns, large calibers win gunfights. Always a headturner at the range along with my LAR Mk 1 45win. I dont buy guns in any other caliber. Nobody reinvented the wheel with the 38 Super round. Cant what till I get a chance to try it out on the White tails in my area. pistol on the market is the Desert Eagle, and that is gas operated in part, as we explained recently in our review of the .44 Mag. If you look in the pictures, you will notice the steep incline of the rounds in the specialized magazine for this gun. I dont know how they finish the gun, but it a pale gold, not barbecue gun gold, but a very pale satin. They know there is always room for improvement, but anyone who says they are an expert, knows think they can stop learning. I have one thats over twenty years old that I bought in St Louis, Mo. It seems to be ideal in those cases, although when the capacity increases to the size of the .458 Lott, youll need another choice. I have a Smith 52 .38 master that is an awesome gun as well. 8>). There was some creep in the trigger, which felt like it was in the 4 lb range. While the 357 diameter is smaller than the 357 magnum the difference is very small, I doubt anything shot with it could tell the difference. The .357 sig is not as powerful of a cartridge. I think it is a great idea, as .45 ACP & .357 MAG are my 2 favorite pistols. That way they would have a weapon that shoots a rimless cartrige, and could be made more like a 1911 without the angled clip and outher issues with this gun. What is the difference between this NEW Coonan and the ones manufactured back in the 1980s? The article originally appeared in the December 2019 issue of Gun Digest the Magazine. I hope they release a 6 inch barrel for hunting with it. Your hand isnt going to go all the way around unless you have Eddie Van Halen freakishly long fingers, so wherever the fingers rest is where they rest, regardless of your size hands. If you fire a clip of 125 gr Hornardy xtps with 22grs of Win 296 out of this fire breather all the shooting at the range will stopTry that with a 357 sigThere is nothing left to envy.Coonan .357 MAGNUM. All in all, I would give the gun top marks if the new ones are as good as the old ones were. Very accurate, powerful, and easy to carry comfortably. I personally find the longer grip more comfortable than that of the standard 1911 and I dont have larger hands. The extra lip that sticks out of the .357 Magnum and other rimmed cases creates trouble in semi-auto pistol magazines, and the .357 Magnum case itself is very long to fit lengthwise in the grip of a pistol as well. Next year comes the compact cadet model. For this deer season, my father lent me the rifle he shot his first deer witha sweet, octagonal-barreled Model 1893 Marlin in .30-30 Winchester that was manufactured in 1902. mag. His main advise as far as guns was to keep it simple. Instead I put the BFR away and pulled out my Coonan Classic (357 magnum automatic) with some special 110 grain bullets loaded over a hot load of H110. I have found it to be very reliable. No problem.I got lots to choose from. The author said to read the manual. It works equally well for full-house loads and reduced loads in the .300 WSM, so a reloader can work from .308 Winchester velocities right up though the magnum velocities. I installed the spring and tried it with Hornady Critical Defense in both regular .38 Special and the +P loads, as well as some Fiocchi .38 Special I was out testing a cowboy gun with, and none of it cycled reliably even with the lighter spring. 357 power in a rimless case. He said you need 1 big game hunting round, 1 self defense hand gun ammo, 1 plinking ammo and 1 type of shot gun. I would say that a Coonan would be on even footing to any 10mm with the same 5 inch barrel in terms of energy. A .30-30 Winchester 150 gr. It is a very big gun, with as you can imagine, a very large grip. I unfortunatley never got this opportunatly to hunt with my Grampa! On the Burn Rate Chart, 5744 definitely comes in on the faster end of the spectrum (a bit slower than Hodgdons H110 and a bit faster than IMR4198), but because of the way it performs in so many different scenarios, 5744 warrants a place on your reloading bencheven if its for no other reason than to offer the reduced loads to new shooters. I do question why they would have released and included the .38 spl spring if it didnt funtion 100% right out of the box. I was able to shoot it comfortably. Below that it says the brake in is 200 to 500 rounds. The ad campaign about the Coonan Classic .357 not being your first pistol is just that, an ad campaign. But the appearance and function of the gun is that of a much more expensive 1911. I know how to make a 30rd 40rd 6.8 Mini-14 mag. Off of the top of my head I can tall you it shot S&B 158 grain, Hornady leverevolution, Hornady PD, Felochi 158 grain, Buffalo bore 180 grain, buffalo bore 125 grain, Winchester white box 110 grain, Remington UMC 125 grain, Cor-Bon 125 grain, CCI shot shells. The Browning High Power with its external extractor was accepted as reliable enough for many armed forces to adopt it worldwide. You start screwing with John Brownings design you are inviting a multitude of gremlins to invade your abode. It also serves many of the lever-gun cartridges, such as the .30-30 Winchester, .35 Remington, .348 Winchester and .358 Winchester. However I did not get the the same level of performance. It did, however, have a tremendous fireball, with the Federal 125 grain loads he used. The ballistics from a 5 inch Coonan is slightly than the ballistics of a 6 inch revolver. .357sig doesnt quite hold up to .357mag especially when .357mag is fired from semi auto. The Coonan allows me to have a semiautomatic (I dont like the Desert Eagle) All so the 357 magnum has better ballistics than a 38 super from a semi automatic. 28 hiwaypatrole .357, and its a handfull with garcia grips and handloads, I think coonan would have a much more reliable, handelable, pistole if they made one chambered for .30carbine. Please try again. I own a Coonan Classic. It is a necked down .40 to accept a 9mm bullet. It does not like the CCI shot shells (I did mention I tried lots of different ammo). Appears to be a nice looking semi-auto. With lighter ammo it comes close to the power of the magnum but when you start shooting 158, 180 or 200 grain ammo the 357 sig struggles. Heres to hoping they can perfect an 8 round mag. The .357 Mag. Works in a wide spectrum of cartridges from .17 caliber all the way up to big-bore rifles. god i loved it.i sold it in the late 90s and i kicked my azz ever since then for sale in it.but i had financial problems and sold 7 of my hand guns. I wouldnt go hunting deer or larger game with .357Sig but ethical hunters have been do so with .357mag since 1935. Historically looking at firearm prices the Coonan will hold and increase in value while the XD wont be worth more than $400 once you fire it. pistol, but as a certifiable gun geek, I think this pistol stands on its own merits very well as a really functional and high quality pistol for a reasonable price. I like this ideal because I use a .357 mag lever action rifle and it would allow me to use the same ammo. Fortunately I was able to acquire a 6bbl Model B yrs ago but held it as a collectible, recently added a Classic and after test firing to insure functioning it was retired for range, backup duty and as a BBQ gun. And it can be concealed, heavy but concealed. Its a question of case capacity. Yes. God Bless America and the 2nd Amendment! http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/calibers.html. mags,if they want to sell more pistols.maybe theyll be like ruger; i bought a mini-14 6.8cal. a new generation.how much for the cheapest oneand how and where can i buy one. They will do for about the same sized game. As if the .375 H&H Magnum werent one of the most versatile cartridges ever made, the use of 5744 makes it even more so. I have a Taurus 357 mag revolver with 7 shots that cost me about $329 that is easier to handle and small enough for concealed carry with its 2 barrel. BFG: a piece of personal artillery used by an individual and chiefly defined by, well, its incredible bigness. He shot 1 round and gave it back to me! * Smaller, lighter bullet with longer cartridge that doesnt effectively burn its powder within the 1911 barrel. Pick up a pound and see how nice it is to practice with a big-bore without the recoil. I admit Ive never paid over $400 for a firearm and think the $1200 plus is crazy. Mine ran 38+p right out of the box. oh my god. This removes the need for different loads or fine tuning your handguns. I found out what my Coonan was worth, so I had to retire it; but it was the best handgun I have ever owned and even fired. Behind the glamour we John HEACOCK. I have been building from 80% lowers and I think it would be a fun build. I doubt you could stuff a 200 grain bullet in a 357 sig much less a 230 grain bullet. Repeat this proccess until you are happy with how many rds can fit in the new magazine. Are you still looking for a Coonan 357? Think about the combination of the Savage AccuFit stock (or any other system via which the length of pull can be changed to accommodate a growing hunter) and ammunition ranging from .30-30 power levels right up to full-throttle 06 stuff. That Gun expanded. Critical Defense utilizes the same powder blending technology that you find in Hornady Superformance. Today, revolver/semi-auto combos are easy to achieve in any useful defense or hunting combo. I fondled a Coonan at a local gun shop, and here are my impressions. The Coonan is a great gun for people that like to keep there bullets down. version of the gun. The Coonan Classic .357 feeds flawlessly, as long as you use real .357 Mag. I own a S&W mod. It holds 7+1 rounds of .357 Mag. The 38 Super was, in fact, re-inventing the wheel since the 45ACP/1911 platform pre-existed it and was capable of comparable ballistics to the 38 Super. There was one other pistol besides the Desert Eagle that was chambered in 357mag. Great gun, acurate easy enough to carry as a back up when hunting, or as a primay. First and foremost, the 38 Super is lower caliber. At a circumference of just over 5 5/8ths inches, it fits my stubby fingered hand just fine. But the Coonan has it over the DE in every other category. Do you still have the Coonan 357 for sale? Devotees of both the 1911 and the .357 Magnum will find a nice blend in this gun, and I can pretty much assure you that nobody else at the range will have one. If you try your own pistol with the .38 Special spring, make sure to swap the spring back when you switch back to .357 Mag. I have a close Friend with and FFL here in St. Louis that you could ship it to and he can do the transfer for me. I can shoot .38s quite reliably[ but not wcs! and really like.my 9yr. I put black tiger walnut grips on her with a Miami Classic Galco shoulder rig I hot water fit to the pistol, and it is a dream to shoot and wear. a 357 magnum gains a fair amount of speed from a semiautomatic. If one wanted a hot, smaller, lighter round, Colt made one the 38 Super without the need for workarounds, loading nails and grip that author says cant get his fingers around. He said you only need 4 rounds in your collection. Bought a used Model B before the floodgates opened!! After seeking one out since the early 80s, I finally got mine. Do you like to practice with the .470 NE without the punishment to your shoulder? * Workarounds required to make the lipped cartridge work in auto. The true experts know there the only real reality, keep on on changing, changing and more changing until their last breath. Id like to have one as a target pistol toy. better go for now. Thanks DAN, Great firearm!!! I just love the way your Model B. I carried a Model B Coonan 357 Mag for my duty weapon from Jan 1987 until Oct of 2009. Although my favorite (a Mark IV Series 70 Gold Cup), still, Berettas and Glocks feel more natural to my hand, a mens large glove. I have used it in the .404 Jeffery, .416 Rigby and .375 H&H with great effect. I even tried a 40 S&W Glock for a while but not for me. I wonder what my CC company is going to say when they see that purchase. Why, every Tom,Dick, and Harry makes a 357 sig. put this cartridge in a 1911 designed for a fat, short, auto cartridge with proven effectiveness. Its still plenty of gun for lighter gamethink .45-70 with a better sectional densitybut its much easier on the shoulder and a great way to train with your buffalo/elephant rifle. I dont know if this is good or bad. Reliability was great on everything outside of the shot shells. Plus the Dura coat guy can probably help you with the project by putting the follower back in with the New spring from the 30rd AR-10 mag or AR-15 Mag. He said its an interesting gun and I was welcome to shoot this gun at the pistol range! My friend never had an issue with reliability throughout the academy shooting class of more than 500 rounds fired. The great weapons makers know the term expert is a bone head way to quit thinking. I would really like to see the coonan in the defunct 9mm win mag cartridge. 1911 357 Magnum looks.Can I have it custom with a compensator? The same could not be said of some of my other classmates, who had name brand pistols like Sig Sauer and Smith and Wesson that had problems and required repair/adjustments or simply were not that reliable with the duty load they used. Just keeping my fingers crossed that they manage the 8 round mags someday. At first I was a little intimidated by the longer (front to back) grips. this thing would suck up my entire 2011 tax refund, my company annual bonus might be the same, gonna require some noodling, I live in Arizona. All of the comments have been very positive and it is as I suspect, a great gun. I oppoligised and moved as far from him as I could. The adjustable NS that came on my Classic were Kensights that are as little different. A blocked mag, with a reduced spring. In short, 5744 is a fast-burning, double-based, extruded powder that, when used in its normal capacity, is a perfect fuel for large-capacity handgun casesfrom the .41 Remington Magnum to the .44 Remington Magnum, .45 Colt and .454 Casull, right up through the behemoth .500 Smith & Wesson. When I was in the corrections academy many years ago, one of my classmates had an original Coonan that he let me try out. A BFG might have a mounting or bipod, but the main use in-story is for our warrior to sling it around as a personal weapon. Own a model B since 98. damn, i woulda had you pegged as a Hasidic Jew! Do you still have the Coonan for sale for 1100? Maybe I will find another sweet combination This loading is fine for deer, black bear, and hogs. Why not the .357 Sig round. There is no accounting for stupid, and I think this is part of why Coonan adopted the not your first pistol approach, to steer the gun away from people who wouldnt use it properly. I dont remember every kind of ammo I had but I can tell you that I only found one type of ammo that that my Coonan Classic would not eat. This powder is one of the most useful, if not the most useful, powders to have in your arsenal. But after holding it, it felt good in the hands. Well, theres a means of generating low-velocity ammunition without the dangers associated with the weird pressure spikes from under-pressure cartridges: Accurate 5744 powder. I was surprised at how accurate and controllable it was considering how powerful the cartridge was. I will let you know how the pistol function and its accuracy. This is yet another reason why Im sure Coonan had the idea to advertise the Classic .357 as not your first pistol. If you dont follow the directions you will only frustrate yourself, and you may damage your gun over time. I would think though, the magazines are probably not inexpensive and at $1,200. The Super was a fun gun, hit pretty hard and for long time was 357 of the 1911 lines. Critical Defense is engineered to not produce a big fireball with even a 2 Ruger LCR, and the Coonan Classic 5 barrel is more than enough burn time to optimize the most velocity with the least muzzle flash. Always got other peoples attention at the range. Some people are just cheap, and short-sighted. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing.
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